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Results of CS1101S (Semester 1, 2008/2009) Mid-term Survey +
My Responses
The following are the results for the online survey that we did after the
mid-term exam. I've also included some of my comments to the mid-term survey.
There are several reasons for this survey:
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Timely Feedback - We cannot teach well unless we know what's going on
and what students do not understand. Waiting till the end of the semester
would be too late and there's nothing much that we can do. That said, I hope
that students will appreciate that the lecturers are only human and it's not
always possible to address all concerns and fix all problems this semester.
In any case, the feedback will be taken seriously and future batches of
students will benefit.
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Allow
Lecturers to Respond - This survey also presents the lecturers with a
opportunity to address the concerns of the class and to clarify some issues
from the perspective of the teaching staff, which is also why this
particular page exists.
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Reference for Future Batches - I am hoping that
future batches of students will read this feedback before deciding whether
to take CS1101S or the regular CS1101XYZ version. Scheme is indeed an easy
language, but that doesn't imply that CS1101S is easier than CS1101XYZ.
Students who decide to take CS1101S because they are looking for a "softer"
or easier option are likely to be disappointed. My advice, "Choose CS1101S
only if you seriously think you like computer science and are considering
going into the IT industry or graduate school. Students who are simply
interested in scrapping by should avoid CS1101S".
Note: Feedback on the TA and Tutors are omitted here because of privacy
reasons. I do not feel that it is right for me to put up the feedback they
received on this site (not implying that they are bad. In fact, I have the
privilege of the support of a FANTASTIC teaching staff this semester and the feedback
is raving good, but I still omit as a matter of policy). They can choose to put up their feedback if they wish.
This is an anonymous survey. We have no idea who said what. We just know what
was said. :-)
We do act on the feedback to improve the
teaching of the class. Thanks to the suggestions, we introduced new IVLE
Chatroom consultation hours. This allows students to seek help from their Tutors
online. Next, we will also be showing YouTube clips during the breaks for the
Wednesday 2-hour lectures. :-)
Total Number of Respondents : 46/47
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1)
Multiple Choice
Did you have any prior programming experience? |
Response |
Percentage |
Yes |
22
(47.8%) |
No |
24
(52.2%) |
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0
(0%) |
Just ike past years,
it's approximately 50/50!
2)
Essay
If your answer to the above question is
"Yes", what programming languages do you know?
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1. C++ |
2. Pascal C++ Java(Very Little) |
3. C |
4.
C++ |
5. Java, Php |
6. Pascal,C++ |
7. Main about Pascal Having touch C and Java |
8. C, but just a little. |
9. Java, C++, C#, Javascript, Actionscript, mIRC, all done
recreationally only. No academic background in programming. |
10. Java, C++, C, PHP etc.
The standard stuff |
11. C java |
12. Php Java C++ C |
13. A little about C programming and Java~ |
14. Java |
15. C |
16. pascal |
17. C JAVA (also BASIC and PASCAL) |
18. C,Basic |
19. C++ |
20. Basic Pascal C Cpp C# Java PHP |
21. Java, C++, C#, ASP.net |
22. C |
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24 (52.2%) |
Seems like
the majority of those who know some programming have C++ background this year.
3) Essay
Why did you decide to
choose to take CS1101S instead of CS1101XYZ? |
1. Friend recommended. He keep on telling me his propaganda - Scheme is
good & I can learn more than CS1101. |
2. Heard of Scheme is a better way of learning programming methodology |
3. Honestly didn't know what the difference was. |
4. CS1101S in my opinion teaches you the elegance of programming and
helps you to solve problems in a simple way and not to complicate
matters. The problem-solving skill technique is what makes 1101S unique. |
5. Senior recommend |
6. Cause I don't want to learn Java twice and I heard that this course
was more interesting and could learn more. |
7. Prof Ben said at the Java workshop that it was for the mathematically
mature. I like Math. After doing scheme, and seeing a bit of what they
do in XYZ I would agree that scheme would probably be much more
interesting to someone who is Mathematically inclined. |
8. Upon discussion with an SOC academic adviser, will listed the pros
and cons of the three CS1101 modules, I felt that CS1101S would be the
most challenging and have the best learning experience for me as a
programming student. |
9. The other modules are relatively easy in the first sem, and I think I
should take this chance to learn more |
10. It is said to be challenging so I guess I can benefit from it more
than others. |
11. I thought Scheme would be more challenging and interesting than
Java. Plus, some of my seniors also recommended Scheme over Java. |
12. a. challenging b. may take cs-ma double-degree |
13. a) because the professor is shuai :D :D *grin grin* b) because im
kiasu and want to learn more stuff c) because scheme is cool, or so says
my seniors |
14. Was highly recommended to me by one of my seniors. I heard that its
very interesting and challenging. |
15. TO Learn something new |
16. It was a required module for my Applied Maths and Computing DDP |
17. I want to learn how to manage the complexity in programming codes.
This will be a very helpful skill!!! |
18. I like simple Scheme syntax. |
19. When I picked up Java, I was quite weak in algorithms. Scheme
teaches algorithms first before Java syntax, so think it's better than
learning Java all over again in the same manner. In the end, programming
is all about producing good algorithms as syntax can be picked up along
the way. |
20. want to challenge myself and have fun at the same time. |
21. kind f challenging module ... haha |
22. Didn't know the difference was so big |
23. It's always good to learn more and i thought since i'm new to
computing anyway, scheme might seem to be a good start. |
24. follow some of my friends who told me the scheme would help a lot in
thinking like a real programmer |
25. Because my friend have taken it and said that it is very good. I
still hear professor says that is related to mathematics, so I think It
will be interesting. |
26. I thought that learning an extra language would be better for me in
the long run. |
27. CS1101S seems cool and I can learn more |
28. Because I do not have any background knowledge, it does not really
matter to start with Java or Scheme. A wider exposure also means more
choices to decide upon eventually. |
29. Because Scheme is not the standard stuff as what i mentioned in Q2.
=P Would have probably fallen asleep and skip lectures in CS1101XYZC as
well, which means wastage of time in uni. |
30. I want to learn more. |
31. double degree requirement. |
32. because i want to try to nurture my ability to think
computationally. |
33. Have been told by my senior that it is interesting, but she never
told me that it is difficult... |
34. That is the only choice when i am taking it form NUS High |
35. Because I want to be challenged and to learn more. |
36. I want learn more as I do not have background experience in
programming |
37. I heard about it from my seniors and decided to have a try. |
38. For the challenge |
39. they say it trains ur brain more,they say the lecturer is kinda
'crazy' |
40. I would like to learn more stuff in terms of concepts of
programming. |
41. i thought i could learn more language |
42. -Interested to know more than what other people did. -Thought that
the problem set is something like math question. -Seem interest. |
43. Hmm. Actually I didn't know there was any difference between CS1101S
or CS1101XYZ until I went for the first lecture of CS1101S :p (I didn't
even know that there was a briefing about CS1101S / CS1101 modules or
something like that at the beginning of the semester before bidding). So
I happily bid for CS1101S module (since it was specified in the degree
requirement) without knowing that CS1101S is a special class. |
44. Because I like Ben~ haha! seriously, I was attracted by his charming
personality during the very first workshop@0@ I like his teaching style
very much. though the pace is quite fast and many times I got lost..but
I realize that..it's true that those did not kill you make you
stronger!!!! Compared to Java which has a lot of tedious syntax
concerns...I think Scheme is much more fun =) |
45. haha i think schme is better than java |
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1 (2.2%) |
Every year we
have students who take CS1101S by "mistake" and we have been trying our best to
ensure that students take the class that is right for them. If you are a
prospective student reading this page because you are deciding between CS1101
and CS1101S, do note comment 22. The difference between CS1101S and CS1101 is
pretty big.
From comments 14 and 44,
looks like I have a fan club this year. :-)
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1)
Multiple Choice
How do you find the lectures? |
Response |
Percentage |
I have no clue what the lecturer is talking about most of
the time |
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I have no idea what's happening half the time |
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Lectures are no different from the other classes on
campus |
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Lectures are clear and I am able to follow the material
quite well |
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Lectures are way cool. Easily the best class that I've
taken at NUS (not like I've taken a lot, but...) |
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0
(0%) |
Seems like I'm not doing
so good this year compared to last year. Some 15% of the students are lost at
the lectures compared to 10% last year. Will try to work harder to see what we
can do.
The one person who is completely lost most of the time should come to office hours.
The CS1101S teaching staff is here to help!
2)
Multiple Choice
How effective are the
recitations in facilitating your learning? |
Response |
Percentage |
I'm always asleep during recitations and have no idea what the
instructor is saying. |
0
(0%) |
I
have a hard time understanding what is taught in recitation |
4
(8.7%) |
Recitations are okay |
9
(19.6%) |
Recitations are clear and helpful in reinforcing the material covered in
lectures |
24
(52.2%) |
Recitations are brilliant. I understand Scheme completely because of
them. |
2
(4.3%) |
Others:
1. It takes me quite sometime to figure something out. It make
scheme less obscure.
2. I would put it this way. Recitations aren’t …
3. i almost finished it myself before the recitation maybe i should not
do that
4. What
5. I think recitations are very very helpful, but sometimes the pace for
recitations is a bit too fast (at least for me) since there are lots of
questions to go through in such a limited time.
6. don’t attend
7. I didn’t find recitation useful for me.. |
7
(15.2%) |
Skip |
0
(0%) |
I'm glad that we are doing better with <10% of the students
having trouble with recitations. I curious to know why one of the students
doesn't attend recitation and why he doesn't attend recitation.
3)
Multiple Choice
How effective are the
Discussion Groups in facilitating your learning? |
Response |
Percentage |
They are a complete waste of my time ... |
0 (0%) |
I
have no idea what's going on/I have no idea what the Tutor is saying
most of the time |
1 (2.2%) |
Discussion Groups are okay |
10 (21.7%) |
Discussion Groups are helpful for my learning |
21 (45.7%) |
Discussion Groups are brilliant. Every module at NUS should have them! |
14 (30.4%) |
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0
(0%) |
I am very fortunate to have a brilliant teaching staff for
CS1101S this Semester. Seems like the Tutors are really pulling their weight.
;-) Comments on the individual Tutors (not posted here) were also extremely
positive. My gratitude an appreciation to Ali Razeen, Benny Ou, Caleb Chao, Koh
Zi Han, Li Hongyang, Lim Yuen Hoe, Mohamed Anis, and Selwyn Yeow for serving as
Undergraduate Tutors. Thanks also to Chris Henry who acts as a virtual Tutor in
the IVLE Forum even though he's physically at Google.
Chu Duc Hiep has also performed extremely well this
Semester as the Teaching Assistant and received much praise from the students.
4)
Essay
Feedback for Lecturer
Ben Leong. |
1. could you please speak slower and spend some minutes after one new
thing you teach for us to think and understand what you have just said
before continuing another one ? |
2. You are a very dynamic and exciting lecturer for me. You are also
very understanding to our problems and issues. Your lectures are clear
and concise, though they are also many times too fast to catch up with.
Thank you for teaching us programming and scheme! |
3. Strong lecturer with a solid grasp of the material at hand.
Definitely cares about the success of his students in the course; which
is something that is a little rare among professors in this day and age. |
4. Good lecture, one of the best lecturers I have ever seen |
5. speak very fast really... |
6. very engaged but speaking too fast |
7. Nice~I enjoy most of the time in your lecture. I have never met a
lecturer as cool as Ben |
8. You are really the best lecturer i have ever seen. Really! |
9. He is not boring but if you missed one part of what he is saying, you
can never catch up until he stops. (he's fast but fast is better than
slow.. cause slow would be boring) The only thing he can do better is
stop assuming the students can understand obscure thing as fast as he
could.( some students can do that though). |
10. I agree that the lecture is quite fast, but it is because the course
material is huge and difficult. But the way the professor dedicates for
the lesson is admirable to me. I think that it is quite hard to make
students in love with something so abstract,... But the prof has in some
way encourage us to learn about these abstractions. in fact, I see that
I am a little bit smarter after each lesson. |
11. Cool |
12. attempted to keep lecture interesting but really hard to keep up
sometimes |
13. Lecturer is very shuai :D I think he's very dedicated in his
teaching and will patiently explain and explain and explain and explain
and explain (okay, you get the idea) until we understand what is going
on. He's very approachable and nice and like what he says "customer
oriented", e.g. he will ask if we understand/ have any problems even
when he sees us around campus. |
14. Very dynamic lecturer. Makes the lesson interesting and interactive.
However, I find the pace of the lectures a bit fast at times. |
15. Quite natural and fluent in class and can always demonstrate some
key conceptual ideas or pitfalls in programming, but sometimes can spend
more time explaining some key concepts which have great influence on
staff that will be learned later such as how exactly lambda works, how
lists can realise different data structure such as stack, queue, array,
and tree and graphs by showing more examples in scheme and so on. He is
very kind and really care about his students. Overall, he is an
excellent professor who really loves his job! |
16. Very Cool |
17. Er... funny guy d: (how i wish he can also teach cs1102s!!! @_@) |
18. I really enjoy your lectures so much, yet please try to answer
questions raised by students instead of keeping us in the dark. I think
most of the students in CS1101S ask question not because of ignorance,
but out of honest confusion. There are some problems that are best
elucidated by illustration, instead of left hanging. To say the least,
the DG and recitation questions, Problem Sets and QOTDs already take a
huge portion of study time (And the case for me is that I find 15 hours
of preparation an understatement). So sometimes, it kinds of irritate me
when something obscure is not made clear in the lectures/recitations, as
it slows me down even more in doing my preparatory work. |
19. He's a good lecturer, humorous and keeps the class listening. |
20. Dr Ben is very cool.... |
21.
enthusiastic, brilliant.. |
22. Please don't treat us as we all have previous programming
background. When introducing new terms, please explain. Thanks |
23. Lecture is very fun. Sometime I feel that I had understood the
lecture, but when attempting some questions, it seem so different
(application is the difficult part). Workbin being up dated regularly is
enable me to read lecture before hand (unlike some other module that
take time to have the document to be uploaded) ( Actually, I'm afraid to
talk to you. And is also afraid that you will approach me to ask me
something or call my name during lecture. Don't ask me why cos I also
don't know. ) |
24. Very Clear explanations! |
25. I got a bit worried when he said he seldom touches Scheme nowadays.
Luckily my fears are unfounded when I see his creativity in setting the
mid-term. However, he should try to keep up with the new semantics in
Scheme as the students start learning Scheme from a different version
than him, and hence there might be inaccuracies in what examples he used
during lectures. Try to reduce the number of bugs in your lectures =P I
found several whilst going through them most of the time. Or bug finding
in your lecture notes is part of the learning process? |
26. Overall can say he is good. He always say he is customer orientated
and I agree to that. |
27. The lectures have very clear clues. Although sometimes it was a
little bit fast, I can still get the points with webcast and recitation
groups. |
28. I really like the way of teaching in Scheme. I believe that Scheme
one of the best modules I've ever had. Furthermore, Prof Ben is very
funny when he explains the material, when he asks the questions from
audience and so on... and it is very good! And he is very energetic
person who inspires us to do more than we usually do. |
29. Good lecturer, teaching is clear. |
30. I think Prof Ben is quite a good lecturer. He knows his stuff well
and able to inject some humour into the lectures so that they are not
too boring. |
31. Lectures are fine and good most of the time, but there are certain
parts that seem hard to follow from time to time. Most of the time, they
will get cleared up through DGs and recitations. Great creativity for
the mid-term! A little tight on the time though? Maybe I am just slow? |
32. oh my goodness! you're the best lecturer I have never seen
before!!!!!Thank you for giving us wonderful lectures and making my
first sem in NUS so meaningful! |
33. Friendly :) |
34. ... I can say prof is a very very dedicated lecturer who really
cares and tries to make sure that every student understand what is going
on. I think other profs are not as enthusiastic / willing to spend much
time and effort in doing that. |
35. A very cool guy. |
36. The pace of the lecture is Okay. But I think he speaks a bit too
fast. |
37. I think professor Leong is an excellent professor who puts in a lot
of hard work for his lectures. The onus is on us if we follow the
lectures or not. He tries very hard to make the students understand the
scheme concepts and it should be us who should make an effort to
understand it as well. |
38. Lectures are good, just that sometimes the concepts are too much to
absorb within the 2 hours. But things do get clearer after recitations. |
39. Extremely dedicated and good teacher! Goes through concept extremely
well and care a lot for the students. Very well organised courses. |
40. Dr. Ben is quite a good lecturer, his lecture is interesting, but
sometimes can't quite understand his speaking and missed some important
points. |
41. There is no doubt that he is a very good lecturer... He makes Scheme
look cool. |
42. Dr Ben is excellent. |
43. great, a very good lecturer |
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Thanks for
the kind words. :-)
On the part about speaking fast, I'm aware. :-P And I'm quite glad it has
improved. Was 90% the year before, down to 30% last year and it's about 10% this
year at last count. :-) Again, students who cannot catch what I say should raise
their hand and I will do a retransmit. :-P
Re: pace of lectures, it really cannot be helped too much as we have a lot to
cover in CS1101S. In any case, as I had explained at the beginning of the class,
people should not be overly concerned if they are not able to absorb 100% of
what is taught in lecture because we will go into more detail in the recitations
and reinforce the material in DGs. The problem sets should nail it. Panic (and
come to office hours) if you find yourself still blur about a topic after the
Problem Sets.
Re: comment 18, I think it's quite an unfair comment. One,
I don't have a lot of time to answer questions during lecture and students are
welcome to post their questions in the Forum if they don't get; two, some
students seem to like to ask questions are topics to be covered in future
lecture. I have no wish to entertain such requests because students should just
be patient; three, there are some questions, I'd rather not answer and have the
students go figure out for themselves because I think they should be capable of
doing so and they should learn how to learn instead of just asking.
Comment 25 is also a bit unfair lah. The code snippets in
the Lecture slides are not expected to be run. Scheme source code is more often
than not uploaded together with the lecture slides and those are runnable. There
are sometimes missing parenthesis in the code snippets for the lecture slides,
but I expect students to be able to figure them out. To some extent, it's good
that students find issues running the code directly. Hopefully, that will force
them to learn how to debug and to really understand what the code is doing, so
yeah, I consider it part of the students' learning process. That said, I do try
my best to make sure that the slides are accurate and most of the bugs are not
intentional.
5)
Essay
Please let us have
your suggestions on how the teaching for CS1101S can be improved. |
1. I don't know. Currently it's okay. |
2. Maybe can offer us more specific questions to the test...Sometimes I
find ps are always quite far from test.... |
3. ........i have no idea |
4. it's good enough...too many things to do, haha. btw, the sound
quality of the webcasts is really very bad :( and... er, a little bit
too many slides per lecture @_@ |
5. MSN consultation would be great ! |
6. Already very good (: |
7. I think the problem sets could be made easier... :) They really are
too hard and take up a lot of our time. |
8. I guess in order to be fair to students who really deserve the grade
A, the exam must reach certain difficulty level. Personally, i really
felt i've learnt a lot from scheme, especially when my peers showed me
what others are learning from java. However, this is university after
all, and grades, no matter how people try to say that grade isn't
important, grade does say a lot. It's really hard to set the paper at
really the perfect equilibrium standard, and for those who are not
scoring well, probably because they are not hardworking enough anyway.
But a bad grade, still, doesn't say how exactly slack or how hardworking
that person is. May be he or she really tried. |
9. Actually I think it is generally ok.
- If we want questions to work on, we have so many textbook questions
inside.
- If we need help, we can always ask in the forum or go for consultation
hours. No point having labs hours to force us to do. The PS is something
to replace that and it counts 30% to our final score so people will try
to do it well. |
10. This is a very good course. No improvement is needed! |
11. I will appreciate it if more examples can be provided for some
obscure concepts |
12. can it be a little slow? |
13. give us some interesting materials on scheme, best give us some
sample programs to make us understand the knowledge better. |
14. n/a |
15. Maybe when showing examples during lectures, can use DrScheme to
type out. I think its more useful for people who learn better through
visual, to see the code and the result. Sometimes, the lecture pace is
faster and individually we won't have time to type the code and listen
to the lecture simultaneously. So to try out the code and learn, I often
listen to the webcast and type out the coding in DrScheme. This can be
quite time consuming as I feel like I'm going through another additional
lecture for every lecture there is. |
16. Hmmm. Maybe lower tutor to students ratio for recitations.. |
17. Can design more simple problems which are brief-stated (sometimes
the problem statement is too long and take a lot of time for people who
are not good at English) and focusing on one or two important points
teaching in the lecture. These can help us master staff in practice. And
then can design more complicated problems which combine different points
and need some creativity. These can help us improve our levels. |
18. No idea~ it is the best course I have been involved in ever |
19. The forum is quite busy. I can hardly cover all the points. I can
only go though the points given out by Dr Ben and some solved-questions
as well. Maybe we can have a HIGHLIGHT part for us to know which is the
most important points && conclusions after discussion. |
20. more exercise hours |
21. None |
22. I feel that the teaching now is as comprehensive as you can make it. |
23. @ @ cannot imagine |
24. There could be extra lessons for weaker students where they are
allocated time just for practising to write scheme code. |
25. Er.. I can think CS1101S is quite nice already. If Ben can give less
homework next time, we will be much much happier... |
26. It's one of the best module I can ask for nothing more. |
27. I think that it is okie but I wish that prof should alert students
that they must spend a lot of time to the code. Learning Scheme is quite
time-consuming. |
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19 (41.3%) |
To the student who asked
that we slow down, i.e. comment 12. I will have to provide the same response I
give every year (which people should have seen
it before in the survey for last year): I made clear at the beginning of
class that CS1101S was going to be a fast-paced and that will not going to
change (otherwise it defeats the purpose of having CS1101XYZ what! People who
want to learn programming at a slower pace should opt for CS1101Z). I also
offered to help students who signed up for CS1101S by accident to switch out.
No one switched out this year, though some did last year. I guess the fact that
only one student asked for us to slow down this year and no one switched out
means that I probably managed to get my message out to the students better this
year and the students know what to expect when they sign up for CS1101S.
Re: comment 2. Look into the IVLE Workbin lah! I've uploaded so many past year
papers! Also, you can find more questions in the textbooks. If you are looking
for a ten-year-series approach to the exams, you are in the wrong class. :-) You
can however pray that I have a mental block and I'm not quite so creative for
the Practical and Final Exams.
To respond to comment 4,
I will look into the quality of the webcast. There's however little that can be
done about them this semester. It's not entirely in my hands also.
I would like to thank
the student who posted comment 5. The teaching staff discussed your suggestion
and decided that MSN consultation is not practical. We however came up with the
online ChatRoom consultation scheme that some of the students have found useful.
So, your comment did do some good. I would also like to express my gratitude
towards my Tutors for their help with the online consultations.
Re: comments 11 & 13,
you can actually find more examples in the textbooks. It's not practical for me
to go through too many examples in class. I do enough to satisfy the major.
Students who need more examples will have to go through the additional examples
in the texts themselves.
Re: comment 15. Typing out the code in the middle of lecture is not effective.
It breaks the flow of the lectures. Also, many students don't really need that.
Sorry, but if you need to type out the code to understand, then you'd just have
to do it yourself. Alternatively, don't come to lectures and watch webcast and
change the speed to 0.5 times and maybe you will be able to type and follow in
good time? Think about what helps you learn most efficiently.
Re: comments 4, 7 and
25, less homework is not an option. The homework is calibrated quite optimally
to help the students learn. You be honest with yourself: do you think you will
learn the material well if you weren't made to do the homework? The fast
students will zip through the homework; those who struggle probably need the
homework to learn. As it turns out, my responsibility is not to "make students
happy". My responsibility is to help you learn. Learning is hard. Remember that.
If a class is really easy, it probably also means you're learning squat .... and
wasting your parents' money while you are at it.
Re: comment 24, students
who are having trouble with the material can come to office hours. We will also
be pairing up some students in a buddy scheme to work through a basic scheme
task list to help the struggling students reinforce their fundamentals.
1)
Multiple Choice
As a five MC module,
the workload for CS1101S is expected to be heavy. On average, we expect
students to spend about 12.5 hours per week on the subject. Granted that
for some of the weeks, you spend less time on the subject; and on other
weeks, you spend tremendous amount on it. On average, how much time per
week have you spent on CS1101S? |
Response |
Percentage |
At most 10 hours |
13 (28.3%) |
Between 11 and 13 hours |
9 (19.6%) |
Between 14 and 15 hours |
12 (26.1%) |
Between 16 and 18 hours |
6 (13%) |
At least 19 hours |
5 (10.9%) |
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1 (2.2%) |
The response this year
is quite similar to that for last year, except a much larger proportion (28%)
seem to be spending quite little time this year compared to last year (20%).
Strangely enough, more are also spending more time, i.e. 14-15 hours (26%)
compared to last year (17%).
2)
Multiple Choice
There are seven
problem set submissions for CS1101S this term. What is your view on the
workload? |
Response |
Percentage |
Way too little work. More please ... |
0 (0%) |
Workload is somewhat light |
2 (4.3%) |
This is just nice |
18 (39.1%) |
Work load is somewhat heavy |
17 (37%) |
CS1101S problem sets are killing me ... |
8 (17.4%) |
Skip |
1 (2.2%) |
As usual, CS1101S is a
little bit on the heavy side, but as students will soon realize, the homework
load is front-heavy and so it gets a little better towards the end of the
Semester. Prospective students should note that except for a small number of
students, the workload for CS1101S is typically considered to be more than 5
MC's worth.
3)
Multiple Choice
The problem sets are
important for learning the material in the class |
Response |
Percentage |
Agree |
36 (78.3%) |
Disagree |
0 (0%) |
Others
1. i guess it is important but i
2. Actually i think it is the only way.
3. but i hope there is more relevant way of reinforce the knowledge, ps
is a way of challenge ourselves.
4. Actually the recitations and discussion groups are better for
learning the material. The problem sets posed another dimension in
training your comprehension of the questions.
5. Rather than learning the material, it covers the usage of Scheme
functions. What is taught during lecture and class is seemingly
different from PS in most cases. Helps to broaden our visions and help
us "see" the ways of solving different situations.
6. Strongly agree~! |
9 (19.6%) |
Skip |
1 (2.2%) |
Seems like everyone
agrees that the problem sets are relevant and important. :-P
4)
Essay
Please let us have
your feedback on the problem sets for the class |
1. Some problem sets (other than PS01) could be broken up into more
questions instead of just 1 huge questions and follow-ups of it. |
2. i really suck at it |
3. ok la. |
4. Seriously, this is programming, less math, more concepts. PS03/02 is
so not programming. Upon understanding of the math concept, I can write
the code in 5 mins, and I took 10 hours to understand the math. IE: Look
at the mid-terms, there are so much lambdas tested, of what percentage
was it shown to be important in the problem sets? |
5. Haha, problem sets are interesting and helpful. Problem set is
attractive, if i start thinking about it, i cannot stop. but the thing
is that there is still lots of other homework waiting for me.. - -||| |
6. The problem sets are really useful, but at the same time, they are
really tough. At times, i'm spending 2 whole day not solving anything at
all. Really felt like it's wasting too much of my time because i could
had finished other tutorials. However, as the problem sets cut out a
major portion of the final grade, it's essential to do them, even if you
couldn't get a good score at the end. Don't know about other people, but
since problem sets are the one being graded, most of the time i will
cast the DGs and recitation aside so that i can focus on the problem
sets. As a result, i couldn't finish the DGs most of the time. |
7. challenging and a little bit tricky |
8. The PS are all very well designed and challenges the student well. I
suggest deadlines on Sundays! Friday maybe a lil' unfair to students
with heavy schedule on Thurs and Friday. |
9. PS02 is obscure without explanation and letting the students test out
the curve drawing. PS03 is fun, but getting the solve-ax+by=1 part may
pose a big challenge. |
10. Problem set 3 received the best satisfaction when completed |
11. It was really good. It forces us to understand more and think more
than we should be. |
12. useful |
13. They are well done, and customised :) |
14. The problem sets are very challenging. However, they are relevant to
the subject matter and they definitely serve as valuable practice for
coding in scheme despite the fact that they require a tremendous amount
of time to complete. |
15. Problem sets are just nice and well organized, and it will give you
opportunity to learn material more deeply. |
16. that's good to have practical exercise rather than being stick to
theory~I have learnt a lot from working on the problem set |
17. Not too hard but sometimes should state the requirement in each
problem clearly. |
18. PS 3 almost killed me. BUT what did not kill me, make me strong. I
learn a lot from it. PS 4 is somewhat easy after finishing DG 5.
HOWEVER, DG 5 help me a lot~ in understanding the points. |
19. i am dying and i don't have TIME to stare at it |
20. The problem set is okie. |
21. I think problem sets are super killer >.< I would very much like to
say that Problem Sets should be accompanied by DG, but then I think that
wouldn't be fair to the future schemers because then they wont
experience the agony and frustration we had *evil laugh, I'm sadistic*
wahahaha. But honestly, I really think that there is this great sense of
satisfaction when you finally figure out what that verbose clunk of
greek (and infused with geek humour) is talking about. There, I said it,
yes I'm a masochist (: So I say I think you really shouldn't deprive
them of that ego-boosting, adrenaline-rushing hype when they realise
they FINALLY UNDERSTAND. Whee. Eureka! Lambda! :D |
22. Tough >"< Need help rather frequently. Maybe more clues can be
given? And submission on saturday or sunday instead of fridays? Weekday
timetables usually packed, sometimes it is hard to finish up our work
during weekdays. |
23. Although I hate to admit this, but the problem sets do bear
substantial relevance to the topics learned in lecture. *sigh* |
24. I think they could be made a bit easier |
25. It is a good chance for us to use what we learn in lecture. And it
is also a good IQ training. |
26. very cool! Those problems are really interesting... We drew
pictures.. then we encrypted and decrypted codes... |
27. The story in the PS adds some humor to it. So far all the PS are
interesting. |
28. So far, the problem set have been very tough, but also important for
our understanding of the subject matter. It is a hard job, but overall I
think a good experience to look back on once we have completed the
module. PS 3 was I think, the toughest ever, maybe we could have had a
little more help with it. |
29. The real problem I come across with the problem set is sometimes I
don't know what is the question require me to do. When I found out, the
question is not hard for most time. The last question for PS2 is too
easy, that makes me have no triumphant feeling. |
30. The problem sets are very interesting and give us excellent practice
of writing our own code. However, the questions are sometimes hard to
understand i.e. it is difficult to gauge exactly what the question
requires us to do. |
31. Well designed. |
32. Problem set 1 was fine and allowed me to pick up some concepts along
the way. Problem set 2 was a little mathematical. I really had to go
read up on some of the math concepts before being able to do the problem
set. Problem set 3 was quite a killer, and the time given was somewhat
insufficient. |
33. PS1 was a really good first PS IMHO. It was easy enough to break us
into scheme but the last question was tough enough to give us a glimpse
of what coding in scheme is like. PS3 was tough, but fun. |
34. it seems so far we are all dealing with higher-order procedures...
and sometimes the reading before actual problems is too long... but i
think PS are very good training (: |
35. Not very tightly connected to the class content, I mean, in terms of
dirtying my hands, that's not enough coz many basic procedures (indeed
most of them) have been written already leaving me less practicing in
basic coding |
36. Problem set is very time consuming for me. It take me days to
understand what the question is trying to convey before I start the
doing the problem. Most of the time i have to ask other to explain what
the problem set asking. |
37. I think problem sets are helpful for learning. But when reading long
explanation in it, sometimes I'm confused and do not know what I need to
do. After grading PS, I think tutors can spend some time explain it.
It's really hard just read the answers (all codes) to understand, and DG
hour is used for DG, consultation is used to ask about next PS. No time
for graded PS. |
38. Problem sets are killers. And super time consuming, considering that
I am quite blur and always get stuck while doing it. But then again,
once you understand how to do it, its really quite fun. :) |
39. e how to say, i think it is ok |
40. The problem sets are well set. But it takes me much time to work on
it, especially reading the material rather than solving the problem. |
Skip:
6 (13%) |
Credit must go to the Tutors for updating the problem sets.
We used to have A LOT of complaints about clarity, etc. Seems we have only
sporadic complaints left.
Re: comments 8 and 22, I frankly don't have much sympathy.
You have two weeks to do the problem set. Why do you start doing on Wed/Thurs?
This time management problem is something you guys better go and sort out for
yourselves. In any case, there is logic for the Friday due dates. This is to
give the Tutors a weekend to grade so that they can return the graded PSs the
following week at DG.
5)
Essay
Please give us your
suggestions on how we can improve the problem sets. |
1. Does "improve" here refers to making the problem sets harder? Well,
if it does, I think the problem sets are hard enough. If the "improve"
refers to making problem sets friendlier to students, then maybe the DG
exercises should include some parts of ps or at least a part of DG
should be related to ps. (Just like ps2). |
2. Maybe to help the weaker students along the harder problem sets, can
release a few hints for them on the day the problem set is due. At
least, they can try to solve the problems with the hints. Because for
some questions, if you can't solve the earlier parts, you can't continue
on. |
3. The content is quite good and useful. But in terms of the amount, I
think Ben can consider one week one problem set instead of two weeks one
problem set. Cause a lot of people tend to delay it until the deadline,
if he does like this, every week we have enough practice. |
4. improve the language, there are so much language that is hard to
understand. |
5. i'm not sure, in my point, the hardest part in problem set is to
understand the question, maybe we can have some example to show what the
function our code are require (i always have to read thorough all the
code so i can understand the problem set) |
6. Because there are lots of material to read, sometimes i cannot find
where the question is or miss some part of the question |
7. nothing to improve |
8. If there is something like online judge which can help us know
whether our code is correct or not, I think it will be much better. |
9. nothing much....just maybe can at least briefly tell us what is it
about before lecture...like PS3, we simply never come across those
things and suddenly we have to understand it and do it at the same time.
It really helps us to think, but if you have other classes that require
to think as well, then it is not so fun anymore... |
10. No comments. |
11. More clues? |
12. Make them easier. |
13. No idea. |
14. It is already good. |
15. Simplify the language so that it is easy to understand and maintain
the difficulty. |
16. HIGHLIGHT the questions~ |
17. Less verbose, More concepts. Fun comes with giving a concise
requirement, succinct problem, and build a whole solution. In fact,
building a library is actually FUN. Not using the library to solve
problems. There is a reason why programmers often like to build their
own libraries even though there are open source alternatives out there. |
18. I think, perhaps there could be more guidance for some of the
problems of the problem set. Also, the timeline and deadline for
submissions of difficult problem sets should be extended to allow
students to give better solutions and understand the subject matter
better, rather than having to rush through most of the questions. |
19. they r quite good :) |
20. maybe we need more instruction and explanation about the problems..
for instance, problem set 3...I never learn number theory before and
have no idea about the problems. then...I spent a lot of time reading my
CS1231 textbook to know what's going on in PS3. and...yes, forum is
helpful. |
21. Have problem sets due more frequently, while reducing the workload
for each individual assignment. I feel that each assignment takes too
much time to complete. I am well aware that time management could assist
this dilemma, but it's difficult to actually implement such a strategy
at times. Shorter problem sets due every week would force the student to
actively and more consistently work on refining his/her knowledge of the
material. |
22. I really want to say, adopt the maxim of manner (read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gricean_maxims).
But then I'm feeling evil and want to make future schemers suffer like
how we did :D muahahahaha. No lah, I think its a very geek thing to add
this super cute and irrelevant and out of point story (read: PS3 -
demand for ransom) so cutting down on the words will lose the essence of
the spirit. And after a while, its kinda like Pavlov's experiment, when
you see words, you just somehow know what is important and what's not.
Lol :P |
23. Illustrate the instruction more clearly. |
24. its very interesting no need for improvement |
25. I think they've already been posted in the forum. |
26. Perhaps problem sets can be done in groups instead of individuals.
So that it corroborates the already-excellent teaching method in
CS1101S. Knowledge transfer in lecture and recitation, mentoring in
Discussion group, and peer support in problem sets. Well, some things
are clearer when explained by and discussed amongst peers of the similar
age. |
27. If it can be more related to the knowledge from our lecture, it can
be more practical and useful. |
28. Probably you can give lower marks for the questions where you need
to write explanations in words, because for me it was quite difficult to
express precisely in words (lack of english), thus I always get lower
marks for these questions. |
29. lesser qn, lesser words to read, lesser problem sets... but none of
the above is possible right... |
30. No way, otherwise add more workload, which at least to me is not
favourable. |
31. Less words. it contains so many pages and it looks very
frightening.. although actually it is not that frightening... |
32. For PS3 part 2, I think modify the hint: "Hint: This procedure is
very similar in form to RSA-convert-list. If you found yourself doing
something much more complicated, then you are barking up the wrong tree
- ask for help if necessary." I think 'more complicated' is subjective.
The answer in the end is quite complicated. |
33. can make it more independent, I mean let the student to solve the
most problems instead of just a little |
34. Nothing really. Everything above are just whinings. Take it easy :) |
35. RSA one is the best of all because it appears to be more related to
our daily life. Just put some effort to make each problem set more
challenging and interesting |
36. Algorithms needed for the problem set could be gone through during
lectures and the mathematical part should be explained more clearly. |
Skip:
10 (21.7%) |
First,
it's hard to come up with a good problem set. The problem sets were carefully
designed and it's not like we can easily create shorter problem sets due weekly.
Students please just go and learn some time management. It is not humanly possible with the level of
teaching support that I have to come up with completely new problem sets every
year.
Dunno why I have so many
complaints about the wordiness of the problem sets this year. My guess is
perhaps because there are a lot of Chinese students. My advice to these
students: don't complain about the language and use this opportunity to brush up
on your English. Will be helpful for you.
In any case, part of the
problem set experience is learning how to understand complex problems. It's not
all about writing code.
Re: comment 2, hints are
typically found in the Forum or in the Chatroom logs. I don't think we should
have official hints. If there are any, they would already be including the
write-ups for the problem sets.
Re: comment 26, note
that PS 5 (robot PS) is actually done in groups. Problem with group problem sets
is that some students will tend to do all the work and the other students don't
learn quite as much.
6)
Essay
Please let us have
your comments about the Programming Contests. |
1. i wish i could have tried one of them :( |
2. Open the contest folder for all to see after the contests so that we
can learn from the winners. |
3. Lets have some easy programming contest that everyone can take part! |
4. I find it interesting to do the contest problem because it offers
some kind inner view of the language and force me to explore more in
Scheme. However, I notice that very few people spend their time in the
contest, that is a pity. |
5. The contests are really enriching. Though I've never been able to
fully solve the problems, but at least I learn along while trying to
solve them. |
6. I haven't tried them so I don't think I can comment on this. |
7. Why not reveal the codes of the winners? |
8. pple who are zai can do the contest and hence score A+ pple who are
struggling with time to complete the workload don't even need to try |
9. No Comments |
10. I haven't took part in any one of them. No time even to finish
problem sets and have no idea even how to start for a lot of them. |
11. I only did contest2. I found it interesting ... and wishful thinking
is powerful for managing complexity! |
12.
Interesting and
challenging. |
13. I haven't got time to go through the contests. But I think if the
lesson are conducted as such, 1) questions raised are discussed in
respective lectures/recitations, (since discussion groups usually have
just enough time for the dg questions alone) 2) problem sets are done in
groups to facilitate peer tutoring, then more students can have the
privilege of going through contests which will be beneficial to their
own learning and understanding. |
14. Did not attempt them? =X Sorry |
15. It seems that I don't spend much time for the context. |
16. I have only done Contest 1. Interesting. |
17. It looks too scary for me to attempt. I'm scared I'll be very
demoralised if I try to attempt it and keep failing after
986543212345678234567 tries. |
18. Don't have time to do that's all. |
19. I had read the problem in the programming contest but did not
attempt it as i do not have the time to it. Although I had quit some of
my commitment outside school, there is other module that I have to focus
on. |
20. Contests--really for GOOD students who can finish problem sets VERY
FAST...or do they just love programming? |
21. just for fun |
22. I believe it is quite useful, though I have not tried on it due to
my laziness |
23. great, i think can be a littler more |
24. By the time I complete the problem set, I have absolutely no desire
to even open the contest files let alone actually attempt to solve them.
My suggestion regarding shorter and more frequent problem sets might
lend more time and willingness to attempt the contests. |
25. sorry..have never done. |
26. I don't attend because I can't (of course) and find it like an
optional PS. After finishing one PS, I'm too happy to do any more. |
27. Too up there already. Don't know how to do >.< I'm like still down
here. |
28. Never did. But I decide to do all the next contests cause it seems
to be quite useful to understand staff and to challenge. |
29. Never tried them so no comments. |
30. It is challenging. Students with programming background has
advantages in programming contests. |
31. It
is very interesting. |
32. haven't done a single one |
Skip:
18 (35%) |
Contests are
meant to be optional and to help soak up the time for the students who have a
lot of time to burn. No intention to reduce other workload so that more students
can do the contests.
Re: comments 2 and 7, I
already said in class that it's hard to design good contest problems and I would
like to recycle my problems thank you.
|
|
1)
Multiple Choice
Comment on the difficulty of the midterm
|
Response |
Percentage |
Too easy |
0
(0%) |
Somewhat easy |
0
(0%) |
Just right |
14 (30.4%) |
Somewhat hard |
25 (54.3%) |
Way over your head |
6
(13%) |
Skip |
1
(2.2%) |
I guess the midterm wasn't exactly
easy.... :-P
2)
Multiple Choice
Comment on time allocated for the midterm |
Response |
Percentage |
Way too little. Too long, too little time. |
1 (2.2%) |
Time is somewhat short |
14 (30.4%) |
Time allocated is just nice |
31 (67.4%) |
Too much time, too little to do |
0 (0%) |
I
can nap for an hour during the midterm and still finish every question |
0 (0%) |
Skip |
0 (0%) |
I am happy to see that most of the
students thought there was sufficient time. In past exams, most students
typically complain of not having sufficient time.
3)
Essay
Any other suggestions/comments about the midterm? |
1. n/a |
2. No idea before seeing my result and how my points were deducted |
3. Just keep it making more creative :))!!! Actually my suggestion is
not related to the "body" of the mid-term, but it will be better if we
can make it in the morning, because (personally I didn't use to have
exams in the evening) in the evening before exam you are already
exhausted with the whole day :((((... and unfortunately it will affect
for your efficiency. |
4. I don't like the very last question =( |
5. No comments. |
6. The last part of the mid-term takes too much time on its own. Unless
we are really good in Scheme, there is basically no time for us to
really do this part. It requires thinking, coming up with a solution and
writing it out. This is very hard for us to do in such a short time.
Very creative questions. |
7. No other comments. |
8. The questions are extremely well designed. The difficulty is just
right! /kowtow |
9. Let us know that it tests concept COMPLETELY as if you don't
understand concept, even it is a open book exam also can't save you. |
10. No, totally breaks me down |
11. The first question is suppose to be the easiest and should not be
the same type of thing, I think. The first question should be more
varied. |
12. the questions r brilliant, the problem is that i am not hard working
enough :( |
13. The midterm is good for question number 1 and 2 as it reviews the
student's knowledge. It makes the midterm excessive difficult with
question 3. I think that question number three is out of student reach. |
14. Is it possible to correct the mark if there might be some mis-marked? |
15. *stun* |
16. creative |
17. I think it is OK and can warn us to be diligent! |
18. It was creative and interesting. It's just that for the last
question I did not really get what I'm supposed to do, i.e. I didn't
know the method to solve the puzzle to begin with, in order to be able
to code. What I understand was that the code was trying to move right,
left, up down in sequence and try this recursively until it is solved,
but I couldn't picture how it actually did that. So I couldn't really
come up with the base case given in the solution. (The one the I did
come up with I was very sure it's going to be an infinite loop, lol) |
19. Make the difficulty level of discussion group the same as mid-term
so that we'll be better prepared. |
20. not a very good mid-term, compare with others! |
21. Dr Ben.. Could you not walk around next time during the exam?... i
was burdened... |
22. hmm, I don't know what is mystery numbers.. Is it a list or separate
numbers? I hope it will be clear next time. |
23. Would suggest having a milder paper for final |
24. Time allocated should be pegged to the difficulty of the exam. Else
it is unfair in between batches of students =x |
25. n.a. |
26. I think the time can be extended further because some of the
questions can get very lengthy to read. Not being very proficient in
English means I have to take a longer time to read them and leaves me
with lesser time to solve the problems. |
27. time allocated is just nice cause the test is too hard and even
staring at it won't help |
28. Everybody make mistakes in the midterm ~ that's nice because we can
learn from our own mistakes. Maybe next time, you can set the mid-term
paper in a problem set style (easier of course) |
29. ... It reinforces the fact that I am somewhat confused about lambda
still. :( So, yes point taken. Need to revise and study harder. |
30. reading and understand someone's code without their explanation is
hard for me (maybe not with others) Why can't the questions ask us to
produce our own codes for some problem rather than continue other jobs. |
Skip:
16 (35.6%) |
I really spent a lot of effort setting
the questions. :-P Nice to see that people appreciate the questions.
Re: comment 3, really cannot control
the timing of exams. We had the exam in the evening this time because of the
public holiday. Some of your Final Exams will be held in the evenings too.
Re: comment 21, cannot lah. I'm the
invigilator. Supposed to walk around! Scully people cheat how? ;-P
Re: comment 30, reason is simple: you only have finite time on the written
exams. You will have the chance to write your own code at the Practical Exam.
|
|
1)
Multiple Choice
What is your overall impression of CS1101S thus far? |
Response |
Percentage |
This is a horrible class. Truly regret choosing it. |
0
(0%) |
Should have taken CS1101XYZ instead. :-( |
4
(8.7%) |
Just like any other |
7
(15.2%) |
CS1101S is cool |
23
(50%) |
CS1101S rocks. Coolest class I have taken in my life. |
12
(26.1%) |
Skip |
0
(0%) |
The response this year
is almost identical to that for last year. I guess we've reached an equilibrium.
Sorry to know that there are 4 students who regret taking CS1101S. If you have
concerns about the class, drop me an email and come chat with me. :-)
2)
Multiple Choice
Has CS1101S been able
to arouse your interest in programming? |
Response |
Percentage |
Yes |
31 (67.4%) |
No |
6 (13%) |
Others
1. I do not know if I
2. Sorry, I appreciate the faculty very much as they have assisted me
greatly in this course. However, the fact stands that programming isn
3. I was interested in programming, which is why Computing is my first
choice :)
4. I was already interested in programming but scheme makes me realise
that we can do a lot with programming.
5. Functional programming sucks in my opinion. No proper handling of
types and inheritance provided for to do OOP. Doing OOP in scheme is
somewhat contrived - forcing a condition to happen in a case where it is
not suitable to happen. No need to arouse my interest as I
6. er, not really, i
7. I am already interested in programming before even taking up 1101S.
Thus i am aroused before even taking up this module :)
8. Notwithstanding all the fun I |
8
(17.4%) |
Skip |
1 (2.2%) |
Looks like CS1101S is
not quite as effective at encouraging people to like programming this year.... I
wonder why.
These figures look very
much like the figures last year. I guess we're really reaching an equilibrium
for CS1101S.
Interesting, we have a
much larger number of students who want to recommend CS1101S to their friends.
In fact, there is at least one student who would choose CS1101XYZ instead who
would still recommend CS1101S to their friends... maybe he/she is a sadist. :-)
5)
Essay
Please give us your
comments and suggestions on how to make your learning in CS1101S more
efficient and interesting. |
1. I don't know... |
2. No comment. |
3. I think my experience in C programming helps me a lot in learning
scheme, although they are quite different. |
4. More practice and more practice under supervision. |
5. Too many exercises. We have 3 big set of questions every week like
problem set, recitation, discussion group. Gradually lose interest in
the module |
6. Good enough to me as it is. But maybe we should be more prepared to
be tuned to Java? A little worried on that. |
7. I think its okay. Its up to us who have to work hard and follow what
is being taught in the lectures. |
8. Recitation should be 2 hours instead. Always have to rush through it. |
9. What about giving every single schemer a badge for surviving CS1101S
? Haha, erm actually I think its interesting enough as it is. Or maybe
lectures can be made more interactive so that we won't fall asleep
during some lectures which can be very dry and super obscure. |
10. Now I don't have any idea. When I have, I will inform. |
11. As long as prof is shuai, my learning will be efficient and
interesting (: |
12. don't know~~~ |
13. Be passionate about it |
14. er.. for me is - don skip lectures |
15. Some interesting code given during lecture to illustrate higher
order concepts not tested perhaps. |
16. Assign more reading materials. such as lambda calculus |
17. The way it is conducted now is already efficient and interesting.
It's just the nature of the module that is challenging. |
18. You mentioned that after mid-term, you will be pairing the weaker
and stronger students together. I suggest that instead of pairing, maybe
split into groups of 3 to 5 people. I think this will be more enriching
because more brains together might learn more => 2 people might be a
little awkward and not very conducive for learning. |
19. Give out small little chocolates or sweets for small little trivia
question that is not relevant to 1101S mark the end or start of class or
something. eg: pop quiz to test if anyone read the papers: who won first
runner's up in the recent F1 racing ? first 3 to to answer would get
chocs as treats ! |
20. only suggestion is that Don't Replace Ben with other guys~ |
21. a) well prepared before attending every lecture.. b) do revision in
time before I forgot what I was taught during lecture c) ah! start
assignment earlier rather than one day before deadline :( d) browsing
forum to learn something more |
22.
I think that it is
already interesting. |
23. practice~ |
24. The course is very good already! PS4 seems like of dry though. Maybe
can repackage it in a fun way like PS3? =D |
25. in mid-lecture-breaks, instead of telling to do our own things for 5
min, why don't the lecturer prepare some videos or website that are
interesting and fun. i) it helps make those who are sleeping to wake up
ii) it brings back our attention span to the class iii) but make sure is
less than one minute though, as you just want to attract people, not
distract them. iv) always ask us in the end of our lecture, what we have
learnt, and have some of the students answer that question, instead of
giving ' summary' slides. the above methods really works as I actually
gone through that in my high school in malaysia in one of the biology
classes.I never like biology but the teacher makes it really interesting
for us. |
26. i'm not sure....... |
27. For what the course is, it is run about as well as could be
expected. My only suggestion would be to better elaborate on the
differences between 1101S and 1101XYZ in the course catalog. It's
possible that I overlooked a detail or two, but I honestly enrolled in
this course thinking it was a beginning, rudimentary and basic
programming course. |
28. Again, less maths, more concepts, so much can be done with
programming, wassup with the fascination with maths? I have enough
issues with MA1505 and CS1231Y as it is, not forgetting my physics
modules is solving everything with integration there days. |
29. i think more discussion could help understand more, not just do
exercise and listen to the lecture. |
30. give A LOT of examples but lesser workload please |
31. Cover some points about how to use HELP in Drscheme. |
32. No more but to be interested in programming yourself. I think it is
the only way. |
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Thanks for your suggestions. Will look into some of the
issues highlighted.
Re: comment 25, will find some interesting YouTube clips to
show during the breaks. Suggestions are welcome. :-)
Re: comment 5, workload will not be decreased. This is the
catch-22. If you are very good in Scheme, the workload ain't bad, as you see in
the responses above. If you're not so good, all the more you need the extra work
to help you learn. :-P
Re: comment 11, do I have a volunteer to become president
of my fan club? :-)
Re: comment 18, we've already started implementing the
Scheme buddy system. This suggestion on groups instead of pairs actually came up
last year also, but I'm not sure how to implement it, i.e. who to put with which
groups. Lemme think about this a bit harder. More detailed suggestions are
welcome.
6)
Essay
Tell us more about what you think about CS1101S. This is your chance to
tell us anything you want that is not already covered by the previous
questions. |
1. i want to know some applicative usage of scheme, and could get some
codes to study. |
2. The class and staff are great. Scheme is cool. I just keep wondering
what actually Scheme applications are in real life. Maybe I will find it
in the coming robot project. It's just a wonder why Scheme applications
are hard to find compared with others' applications such as c#, java. |
3. Scheme is really cool. However, it is harder than expected to get a
high mark. I think the way I study should be improved, but I don't know
how... |
4. This 5 MC module is twice or even more work load comparing with my 4
MC ones. |
5. I think CS1101S is very good place to start learning programming.
However, I feel that there is too much people that had taken other
programming language before so sometime they will ask question that I
totally don't understand. ( Maybe people with programming background
could be separate form those without so that those who do not have
programming background will not feel the fear and lost in class ).
Although i did not have any programming background, I think you will be
very happy to hear that I actually able to teach student taking Java or
C in their lab and tutorial. At the mean time, I also learn about their
language. ^_^ I think I'm also a great motivator to student who took
Java and C. This is because whenever they feel so useless and cannot
take the workload in their language they will talk to me. After knowing
the time taken |
6. I think that it's really really REALLY hard but for some reason I
still like it a lot. Even though I can almost never do the problem sets
I still spend so much time trying to get it anyway. |
7. CS1101S |
8. CS1101S is very cool. However, if i have a second chance, i will go
to CS1101XYZ. CS1101s is a place to let me compete with many clever
students, but life also becomes harder. |
9. CS1101S helped me learn the key concepts in computer programming in a
systematical way and lay a solid foundation for my future programming. A
very cool course! |
10. Maybe we can have something like quiz or small scale practical test
like CS1102? |
11. I think there should be another common lab session, sort of problem
sets but done in the lab with the help of a facilitator instead of at
home. Since, practically, the workload for cs1101s i feel is over 12.5 h
per week, I just feel that it can complement the amount of self prep
work, and I wouldn't mind the extra 1 or 2 hours of guided work. (It
doesn't necessarily means more time to do self prep work. It may even
shave some hours as a result of better understanding) |
12. Understanding more of Java, which we must touch upon. Since good at
Scheme does not mean we would be able to fit into Java easily. |
13. Nothing more to add-on. Simply the best class even taken. I am
forced to think hard a few times! |
14. I think CS1101S are where are the 'elites' budding programmer come
from. People who are truly interested about programming and computer
science. It takes some nerves to pick CS1101S, facing the unknown while
at the back of your head you just know that you could have gotten a free
A for CS1101XYZ. So its a self selecting process in a sense :) Last
suggestion would be to perhaps at the end of the class release the name
list of all the people in CS1101S and their intended major so that
perhaps people in 1101S can form project team mates in the future. |
15. ...cs1101s = genius party... the point is, if i am not a genius,
then i have to prepare to kill myself to get a little smarter @_@ |
16. I had high expectations of the class from what I heard from seniors,
and I'm glad to say that this awesome module really delivered what it
promised. I find it very cool that scheme doesn't focus so much on stuff
like syntax (save the evil parenthesis!) and whatever, but it really
demands your understanding and appreciation of the logic and
fundamentals of programming. Of course, having a shuai professor helps
:) I'm proud to be a schemer. I feel up there :D |
17. scheme seemed fun but it's hard to get, hard to do, hard to score
but easy to kill |
18. n/a |
19. The debug feature of DrScheme is buggy.... |
20. I need more practice about the lambda & time/space complexity
analysis. Please recommend some hard questions about such topics. |
21. I think CS1101S is really very interesting, but I won't recommend it
to other students because its not an easy module. It will really kill
students, especially those who don't like programming. So I won't
recommend it to other students unless I know for sure that they are very
keen in programming. Oh yeah, and for Question 4, I chose the option
that "Lectures are way cool" which I think is true, but it doesn't mean
that I understand EVERYthing that is going on in every lecture. I am
still quite blur in some lectures, but I find some things to be cool as
well and I can go.. "whoa, that's so smart, why didn't I think of that?"
after some lectures. |
22. CS1101S seems like a good course to begin with programming for
people who have no experience. However, the hard part is that at the
same time, student need to master both the concept of programming and
the way to change it into code. |
23. It's not very practical, for most of the class they will find what
they learn today contribute very little to what they will become, u know
what I mean? some people here are not meant to be taught all this,
they're just not the type.. most of us won't follow the path of a
scientist or a researcher.. ok just treat the last sentences as nonsense |
24. Now realised that I'm transforming from "honey-moon" period to
"CS1101S shock". Hope the final stage will be just great!!! |
25. Very good course. I think all the students have fun and learn a lot
too. |
26. I feel excited every time I think about CS1101S. and for those
general questions my answers are actually "yes!!!!!!!!!!!definitely!!!"
CS1101rocks @0@ |
27. though i stated that i would choose scheme again if i could ever
turn back the clock, i was struggling with the idea of choosing Java
because there's a higher chance of me scoring better for that module. It
might be also because i'm exposed to the more difficult module and
that's why i though the java course might be easy. Lol |
28. a very good thing, why cannot we use it, so sad, we have to use
java, so sad, |
29. I like the thinking of scheme much better than JAVA and C. But only
if I'm a GOOD programmer. the idea of changing definition of built in
function is challenging as it makes sure you cannot make mistakes. |
30. Programming != Math. |
31. n.a. |
32. I feel that, overall, it is a good but very tough experience. I
think some more support should be given for students who have had no
prior programming experience. Also, there timeline for problem sets
should be improved. I think that upon completion of this module, we will
be better able to appreciate what we learnt during this time. |
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Hate to break this to you guys, but Scheme really isn't
very useful in practice. However, it's an excellent tool to learn the concepts
in programming. Typically, people who are keen to do well in Computer Science
will take CS1101S and learn Scheme and thereafter, they can pretty pick up any
language they want.
Re: comment 10, you do have a practical exam coming up.
It's a lot of logistics to prepare for a practical exam so it's not very
feasible to have lots of small exams. But I will keep this in mind and maybe
we'd have some smallish practical tests.... but likely will have to make people
come back on Saturday or something for scheduling reasons.... we'd see.
Re: comment 14, you are absolutely right. CS1101S tends to
see the best programmers at NUS. Well, you should join the
CS1101S Facebook
Group to keep in touch with your coursemates and other NUS Schemers!
Re: comment 20, there are a lot of questions in the
textbooks and also in the posted past year papers in IVLE.
Re: comment 21, student who know they don't like
programming SHOULD NEVER sign up for CS1101S. If they need to clear their CS1101
requirement, they should go to the other easier options. Moral of the story: if
you don't like something, then avoid it and don't go for the most hardcore thing
you can find. Doesn't make any sense does it? Similarly, to response to comment
23, you are describing people who are in the wrong class. Doesn't mean that the
class is wrong lah.
7)
Essay
Do you have any concerns
about CS1101S? If so, what are they and how can we help? |
1. Nothing. |
2. I wonder what level that is considered satisfied when we finish the
course? Program as efficient as Ben? Get the most marks (90%~) in the
exam or just pass the course...quite confused .. because I want to do IS
in the future. |
3. i'm not smart enough =_,= |
4. I think this module requires high IQ and good reading skill. I always
think slowly and think of the question for long long time. Perhaps
hard-working will help. And the reading skill, I am always scared when I
saw a big paragraph. Of course spending lots of time understanding the
question. |
5. i have no clue what is lambda... even after all the examples, i still
don't get it |
6. Worried that I may not have enough time to practice for Practical
exam. Hopefully there can be a weekly class to train us for practical
exams and extra optional practice questions should be given out and
solutions to SICP and concrete abstraction should also be released. |
7. i hope scheme can be better, i think scheme is much better than java,
but it is too slow and no one use it..... |
8. No. CS1101S is a difficult module, but there is no win-lose culture
in this module. The way the grading is designed is appropriate so that
everyone can succeed in this module. |
9. No |
10. Not really. But for now, unsure of how to meet up with people from
the same robot team. (One of those in Randomly formed teams) |
11. That's a gap in the class where by the weak ones are too weak, and
the good ones are too good...and even you try using the 'good students
-mentor-weak students' thing, I doubt that the weak ones can actually
comprehend the thinking of the good ones. The good ones can tell them
their thinking every time but in the end the weak ones still have to
come up with they own thoughts. Or else, you can't learn .. |
12. I definitely have concerns. My responses to the previous questions
have pointed these concerns out. |
13. Not really |
14. Yes. Because I have taken Olympiad before using pascal, and I also
learned C and Java before, so now when encountered with a problem, first
I always thought how to solve it in pascal or java and I always
struggled with details. I know I should not let the programming language
limit my thinking and should first think in a general way, but I just
cannot stop thinking like that and may sometimes don't want to use
scheme! Furthermore, I even mix those languages I have learned up and
thus always forgot what the exact syntax of each language when using
them. My God! How can I solve the problem? Need help urgently..... |
15. Worried about the bell curve in CS1102S (if there's any) I can't
exactly remember. Perhaps wont be used to the new lecturer teaching
style in CS1102S and transition wont be smooth. |
16. It's going well |
17. Maybe can publicised for those taking double degree in maths and
computing that it is a compulsory module.. |
18. My concerns are more like, the other way around. As in, I am
concerned about my other modules because CS1101S really have tons of
workload and it seems like I am giving all my other modules half the
time I spend for CS1101S. |
19. Yeah...Suffering from the sad result of midterm, I only want to find
a way to redeem, maybe it is the practical test, I don't know how to
prepare for it... |
20. yes, the order of growth, and the idea of passing a message. i think
i'll try to understand later |
21. I hope that the questions in Practical exams give the student
sufficient time to finish them. The planning for pseudo code +
implementation + execution is a rather time-consuming process. I know
this because this is what happen during Problem Sets. |
22. No |
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Re: comment 5, well
better come to office hours and figure out or you will "see lambdas" at the
Final Exam. :-P
Re: comment 7, Scheme isn't popular not because it's
slow. Java is pretty slow also. There are other reasons. One of which is that
it's not OOP.
Re: comment 14, if you have Olympiad experience, then
you should have no problems. Just kwai kwai do more questions and you should be
all set. Do put in some effort into the class and you will be fine.
Re: comment 15, worry about it when it comes lah. You're
still in CS1101S and you have enough Scheme to worry about as it is already!
Re: comment 17, good point. Will check with the Undergrad Office.
Maybe they can do pre-allocation. Otherwise some
people get confused and have to switch to CS1101S halfway.
Re: comment 19, you will get your chance at the
Practical Exam. Good luck! |